gooligymoo ([info]gooligymoo) wrote,
@ 2007-06-16 21:21:00
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free will vs creationism
For everyone that believes in God and free will, explain something to me.
God gave everyone free will, so that people can decide things for themselves. So that if people do bad things, it's their own fault. If someone commits a sin, they deserve to go to hell because they chose that. If someone doesn't believe in God, God has the right to be angry, because the person could've chosen to believe in God, but instead, he chose not to. But if God created everything, what would cause one person to use their free will to make one decision, but another person would use their free will to make a completely different decision? Why isn't everyone making the same exact decisions? You may say that is the very definition of free will. God could've made everyone like robots, and do whatever he says, but he gave us a choice. BUT, my point is, God created EVERYTHING. So whatever makes people choose different things, is something that God also created. If people have free will and they can do whatever they want, what is it that MAKES they choose those things? What makes each person do different things? Their personality? Their characteristics? Their genes? The environment they grew up in? Their brain? Their mind? Whatever it is, God made THOSE things too! So it's STILL god's fault for whatever decisions people make. If someone is a murderer, if someone renounces god, if someone is just an overall bad person, it's was still caused by God! God created everything! God created that person! God created everything that made that person do those things! God is supposed to be all knowing! God should know what happens when he gives each person the circumstances that he gives them. So why should God think people deserve to go to hell? It's god's fault. He made them that way.



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[info]nathew
2007-06-17 02:41 am UTC (link)
i bet god was the one who stole your laptop and made that website.

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[info]leebenningfield
2007-06-17 05:57 pm UTC (link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzGMxGq9rM

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[info]dbrycegh
2007-06-18 12:21 am UTC (link)
The logical paradox of free will is precisely what makes it a matter of faith. It's one of those things that a lot of people choose to believe more on the basis of its emotional appeal than on Reason per se. They avoid the need for explanation by citing God's omnipotence and the human mind's inability to grasp it -- which, admittedly, is not refutable by logic. And then you can always believe in free will and in a creator that's not omniscient.

Personally, I'm not sure whether the universe is deterministic or whether there's room for free will, and I don't ponder the question itself very much. I'm going to make the same decisions in either case, and my life is the same either way.

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